tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post90753385521547261..comments2023-03-24T21:49:49.118-04:00Comments on Dubious Prospects: White supremacyGraydonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09839374676813519438noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post-35063160058267099132019-03-16T17:00:09.578-04:002019-03-16T17:00:09.578-04:00Aotearoa had some early MMR vaccines where they th...Aotearoa had some early MMR vaccines where they thought a single shot was enough.<br /><br /><i><a href="https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/384570/measles-and-mmr-vaccination-in-nz-the-facts" rel="nofollow">In New Zealand between 1969 and 1990</a>, it was standard practice for doctors to give just one vaccine. People born during this time should confirm that they have had two MMR vaccines.</Moznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post-27181940728885858182019-03-16T16:13:48.387-04:002019-03-16T16:13:48.387-04:00@Deborah Fitchett --
Here it's two shots as a...@Deborah Fitchett --<br /><br />Here it's two shots as a kid, "first birthday" and "age 4-6" for MMR, so not quite the same schedule. <br /><br />(http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/immunization/static/immunization_tool.html gets fearsomely detailed, as I suppose it ought.)<br /><br />The official definition of immune is similar, but they're finding that Graydonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09839374676813519438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post-43945652471710017992019-03-16T15:00:04.301-04:002019-03-16T15:00:04.301-04:00@Graydon - Of course now I think of it the tweet t...@Graydon - Of course now I think of it the tweet thread in question was about New Zealand in particular: Nor.Am. and its demographic spread will of course be different.<br /><br />"Every ten years boosters" isn't a thing I've heard of though, not for measles. (For tetanus it used to be a thing, but doctors in NZ now don't recommend it, I think because the immunity fades so Deborah Fitchetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12058960370520958818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post-12049442317681464062019-03-16T14:31:15.240-04:002019-03-16T14:31:15.240-04:00@Moz --
White supremacy, when you get right down ...@Moz --<br /><br />White supremacy, when you get right down to it, is a claim to be innately special. Anti-vaxxers are making a claim to be innately special, too, and I don't think there's any meaningful difference between the positions. It's deeply embedded -- merely watching your kids suffer through measles doesn't seem to affect it at all in most cases -- and, well, so far asGraydonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09839374676813519438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post-35257817017107308392019-03-16T14:28:00.938-04:002019-03-16T14:28:00.938-04:00@Deborah Fitchett --
The absolute numbers of anti...@Deborah Fitchett --<br /><br />The absolute numbers of anti-vaxxers is pretty low, yes. But they're generally concentrated and we're seeing (in Anglo NorAm) serious outbreaks and actual deaths. The overall population immunity for something like measles isn't where it needs to be because most adults haven't been maintaining their every-ten-years boosters because it hasn't Graydonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09839374676813519438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post-21601942654405474052019-03-16T05:32:12.739-04:002019-03-16T05:32:12.739-04:00The trouble is that, as we're seeing with anti...The trouble is that, as we're seeing with anti-vaxxers, wealth is no defense. Some of the natier outbreaks of disease are in rich communities who can afford to vaccinate and in fact have to go to some lengths to avoid it (starting/repurposing childcare centres for their children for example). If we can work out how to persuade them to vaccinate other than by "see that pile of dead Moznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-105242361638428746.post-26362113942565518362019-03-16T02:50:46.991-04:002019-03-16T02:50:46.991-04:00Before this all erupted and stole my brain (all ot...Before this all erupted and stole my brain (all other concerns aside, too many environmental signals like sirens and helicopters are reminding my lizard brain of post-earthquake times) I saw a <a href="https://twitter.com/mikeythenurse/status/1106102660908740608" rel="nofollow">twitter thread</a> that, if true (and the author certainly seems qualified as someone who knows a lot more that me), Deborah Fitchetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12058960370520958818noreply@blogger.com